Template talk:Basic forms of government | proposed edit

Proposed edit

Hello. This template as it currently stands seems a bit tall and space-grabbing. How about the first version opposite, which reduces its height without losing (or changing) any of its content? Or the second, which introduces an "Authoritarian" subsection? (The third is the current template, for the sake of comparison.) (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I am strongly opposed to the use of {{·}} and <br> for delimiters for wp:accessibility reasons. if this is a list, then use either {{flatlist}} or {{plainlist}} or |bodyclass=hlist or |bodyclass=plainlist. Frietjes (talk) 19:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out. hlist/plainlist seem to bring some quirks of their own (e.g. handling line-spacing and those hanging dots) but what do you make of the templates as now modified? (And, would you prefer the one including the "Authoritarian" subsection, or no change at all?) Perhaps Sidebar et al should include "subheading" parameters for use within its "content" or "list" sections... (talk) 05:06, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
hanging dots are a feature, not a problem. they show that it is a single list, and they delimit the list. as far as line-spacing goes, this is only a problem if you try to mix non-list elements with list elements, or if you use only non-list elements. this problem exists when you use a <br> delimited list and try to add newlines in the list. the work-around is to wrap content in div tags as you have done. the other option is to use dfn lists when there is a heading, using the ; and : syntax instead of * syntax. Frietjes (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I suspect we may have to agree to disagree about hanging dots, at least for the time being, as they appear ungainly to me. I don't believe they're necessary to indicate an ongoing list or delimit every item in that list. I can imagine an adaptation, though, which I think would accommodate both our points of view: leaving them there, but making them hidden (visually), e.g. using "visibility:hidden;" styling.
Meanwhile, apologies for ignorance, but I'm guessing a "dfn list" is one of these: http://www.htmldog.com/guides/htmlintermediate/definitionlists/ ...? If so, it's something I haven't seen before, so thanks for the pointer. (talk) 06:04, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
PS Do you prefer any of the three layouts opposite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:06, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
yes, dfn means definition, you can create definition lists using the ; and : in wikimarkup, although with hlist, it works best in navboxes,
Form 1
Form 2
Form 3
as long as we are using hlist/plainlist for lists, I have no preference otherwise concerning the format. Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I have implemented the second of two more compact versions of the template. Thanks for your input. (talk) 06:41, 24 November 2012 (UTC)